Subject: (Wishspa)I Wished too many times (B&S)
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(Wishspa)I Wished too many times (B&S)

Date & Time of Session: Sept 25 2020
Location:  Central
Name:  Bobo (was promised JoJo..read on)
Link: https://go141.com/en/B32835-Central-SPA-WhisSpa.html?ref=Search[stype,region]

BoBo
Nationality & Language: Mainland I think
Age: Mid 20s
Face:  3/5
Body:  4/5 Great body, small breasts but I like that
Skill: 2/5
Service: 3/5
Price & Session Length: to me HK$2200 2 hrs - to them they gained a massage fee and lost a loyal and regular customer
Repeat: never (neither girl nor spa)

I have been using Wish recently looking for a place other than Mia/Kama for that upper-end level of service and started using them a few months ago. The girls are hit and miss in my experience. The very first girl I had there a few months ago was Bobo and she was OK, I recall being very "meh" about her as she would blow hot and cold, sometimes warm and accommodating and then just switching off. Very strange. Her service was OK but she also kept offering to get another girl to service me. I am not sure why, I am OK looking, I have a fairly fit body and I am gentle and easy going. Whatever, serviced me then and I made a mental note of "nope, not her again".

So, I have a number of experiences there which really should have alerted me. I have tried Molly a few times - tremendous massage, OK part 2. I also experienced probably the best massage of my life when I booked Molly only to discover upon getting there that Molly was not actually available after all. So I said I'd leave and the "manager" offered to massage me instead. It was easily the best massage I have ever had. Totally strong and she knew exactly what she was doing. Part 2 also very, very good. So all good.

This time I asked who was available and got a pic of a girl who looked very cute and said OK. An hour later I get a message saying she's not available - with an interesting story that I won't share. So get a few other options but none really grab me. Another time.  So I make "other arrangements" and then an hour later I get a message from Wish telling me - a new girl, name Jo Jo, speaks excellent English - you will like. I decide to trust my contact and so cancel the other arrangements and turn up at the appointed time and then shown into the the big room. Very nice. I shower, dry off and am totally naked and then in comes a little lady who looks familiar. Its dark (I'm naked) and she's cute so I think OK.

"Are you JoJo? Nice to meet you." says I.
"No, I am BoBo" goes she.
Oh.
Her English was rudimentary, she tried but I would not say she speaks it "well".

Well I don't want to be an asshole, she's pretty and seems keen to give a good time.

So we proceed. The massage is very average but she very quickly moves to part 2 which would be fine if she was not switching from horny as hell to "don't touch me" every 5 minutes. I have seen this MO before. Bobo. I realize this is the very same girl and I have been duped by the lady I trusted.

So I finish the session, unsatisfied, and am ushered out hurriedly by Bobo (so the tip was smaller than usual) and I leave.

I'll admit it, I was pissed off. I hate being lied to and I was Bait & Switched. I hate being treated like a doob. So I contact Wish by wechat, explain the situation and get a torrent of BS about how Bobo recalled me from Kama (nope), how I have seen her lots of times before (WTF?), how today was the first day Bobo had ever worked at Wish so I could not have seen the same girl. Just bizarre. A simple "sorry, we fucked up" would have kept me going back - I was very happy with some parts. But I won't be treated like a fuck wit.

Deleted contact. Wrote this review - trying to be fair - and moved on.

Wish has real positives, the girls are pretty and the service is good. the fixtures and fittings are great, the location is superb, the management are fast (maybe too fast), and the cost is pretty much the same as Kama/Mia. But Kama/Mia have never lied to me, and that is the clincher for me.

Peace.

[ Last edited by  cityguy at 25-9-2020 21:32 ]

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Petay_1283   30-9-2020 10:58  Karma  +10   Shocking.
princeandnpg   29-9-2020 11:56  Karma  +5   Wishing for a good spa with good management :(
Hitnmiss101   28-9-2020 14:42  Karma  +2   I am still looking for a good venue that doesn't require crossing the harbour
Cspoker50   27-9-2020 17:17  Acceptance  +1   Excellent
trust_00   27-9-2020 15:18  Karma  +5   Thanks for the report
test74   27-9-2020 07:12  Karma  +3   I think between Annie and the new partners, they don't realise that you can't fool people all the time and you shouldn ...
Mister   26-9-2020 22:34  Karma  +4   Not good.
calaisien   26-9-2020 16:50  Karma  +5   Not nice to treat regular like this
hotjac   26-9-2020 13:10  Karma  +4   Good way to help others decide. Too many providers start getting way ahead of themselves until they're not!
d4ve88   26-9-2020 07:55  Karma  +4   Good story! Well done giving them a bollocking, hopefully they won’t do that again.
chaudement   26-9-2020 06:18  Karma  +1   With deepest sympathy, Bro.
Bloodrage   26-9-2020 01:10  Karma  +4   
Ecthelio007   25-9-2020 22:26  Karma  +5   I don't see how these places expect to get away with these obvious lies.
twiceAweek   25-9-2020 22:13  Karma  +6   interesting
scufferhk   25-9-2020 21:23  Karma  +5   Yep, agreed
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You mentioned Molly. She is a good one that actually looks like her photos. Quite reserved though. Problem is the other photos at Wish are so good there's basically no way the girls can look as good!
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Reply #2 abbaranks's post

yes, I shall miss Molly. Terrific massage but lacking in actually connecting with you.




should it have those spots on it like that?
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Met a couple of amazing gals ove the years and part of the fun with these spas was the rappor you build up with the manager. Serenity in tst and the place before Kama. Managers like Joy should give training on how to run these places, she was at her prime simply amazing. Friendly, honest and knew how to keep clients happy. Any other places with good managers?

Glad you gave the manager of this place a bollocking, hopefully that will make the think twice before doing that again and save some bros from the same experience..!
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Reply #1 cityguy's post

When you see their line up today
There are Coco, Jojo, Yoyo, Dodo... Seriously it's all fake name, there is only one reason use all names with the same sound, you trick people.
Usually, spa use different working name to avoid mistake.
And I don't understand why the girl can change name many times.
Like now Kiki, last month she was Jojo, before that she was Sunny at Mia...today the Jojo is not here..
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Reply #1 cityguy's post

Granted the service these operators (and some HG agents are among the worst culprits) provide is literally f^cking their customers, but they aren’t going to stay in business long if they think they can do that metaphorically.
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There is an earlier thread on this topic started by "theworld" on 23 September 2020.
Photos of the WGs are therein posted.

https://forum.sex141.com/eforum/ ... &extra=page%3D1

My last experience at Wish Spa was in middle July 2020:
YoYo was called Emma. Allegedly she does yoga and is very flexable, 40s.

KiKi was called CiCi. I first met her at Yu Spa. Nice WG, standard service.
She upcharged at Yu Spa, the reason why I stopped seeing her.

Molly seems to have the same name . . . for now. Standard WG service.


My HKG mongering experience [primarily in Central as work convenient], repeatedly finds
the local shops/spas, etc. using the traditional Mainland habit of "Grab the Money and Run."
There seems to be little, if any, current interest in building a longterm business relationship
with a customer.

Some Bro's have mentioned shops wherein a former Manager understood this basic business
concept. If anyone knows of a current shop that actually values its customers, kindly reply
with their name/location or PM me.

Meanwhile, I wait for the travel restriction maddness to end. Thailand is first on the list.
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Reply #1 cityguy's post

According to the above-mentioned people's comments at the time. I also strongly condemn the term "deception" used by people at that time.
This will damage the reputation of the store. The above comments do have a lot of doubts!
You say you are very experienced, but whether this girl works in Kama or Wish,
It’s better to use any name. Every industry has industry rules (but you don’t know). You have a pair of eyes to see if you are the same person. You are also responsible for part of the responsibility. When you choose a designated girl instead of giving your designated girl. You have the right to choose another girl or even leave right away.
But you did not ask to change girls or leave immediately. And I chose BoBo (JoJo) to serve you, and I don't understand. At this moment, you should know that JoJo is equal to BoBo (just work in that shop), but after halfway, you said that you realized it was the same girl. This is the point of doubt! And the first half of the comment girl and the second half of the comment girl’s preface is not correct. So I think there is indeed a doubt, I just say a fair statement.

(I personally experienced the same happening in other spa shops, but I chose to leave immediately. Because I am a consumer, I have the right to make any choice)

Please read this comment carefully. Thank you

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momozzz   28-9-2020 08:59  Karma  -4   I read carefully and you obviously have stakes in this business...
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Reply #8 ddr355355's post

Are you a customer or the management ?

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chaudement   27-9-2020 13:16  Karma  +1   Well stated. No.8 reads like a management reply.
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To be honest  after the recent lifting of restrictions business in FS saunas and the so called spas have been just too good … the FS saunas have been doing 2x to 3X the the amount of business they used to do last year !  What girls available are overworked so service is crap these days … totally crap !
Maybe the situation will right itself once we get this revenge fucking out of our heads
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Incorrect post, apologies.

YoYo of Yu Spa has now metamorphosed into "Joy"

https://go141.com/en/A83360-Central-Massage-Joy.html?ref=Search[region]

[ Last edited by  chaudement at 27-9-2020 19:20 ]
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Reply #8 ddr355355's post

The "store" is damaged by their actions, not my reporting. You have the gall to write: "You have a pair of eyes to see if you are the same person. You are also responsible for part of the responsibility." - are you telling me I am partially responsible for the store not delivering what they said?

I was promised one thing and given another thing, I fail to see how doing so was an accident.

The reason it took me a while to figure it out is because the first part is a massage, it was only once we moved on to the next part it became clear it was the same person. At this point it is not fair to tell the girl I don't want her - you just deal with it. She was not awful or hurting me. I just decided to get it over with and then deal with it.

The simple fact here is that "the store" thought I would just accept the fact I was not given what was promised (new girl, speaks excellent English) and not be upset and when I called them on it they just gave me a whole bunch of excuses and bull shit. A simple "sorry" would have worked, instead of the excuses they sent me (of course, you won't know what they were ;) )

"The store" should deliver what it promises, or if what it promises is not available then it should tell its customers that, instead of giving them something else.

Wishspa could rival other top end massage "stores" but it needs to emulate the management style of them first.

As consumers we have a right to voice our opinions and complain when we are not happy. If you look at most of my posts you will see the are positive, not negative, I would MUCH rather be writing a good post. I suggest "the store" focuses on making it's clients want to come back time after time.

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chaudement   28-9-2020 02:06  Karma  +1   Well stated.




should it have those spots on it like that?
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Reply #9 twiceAweek's post

Why do you ask........................

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momozzz   28-9-2020 08:56  Acceptance  -8   He has the right to ask. The way you support the business and dont let others expressing themselves are both fishy and q ...
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Reply #13 ddr355355's post

the reason I ask is because in the past, proprietors of certain famous spas in central have joined this forum,
conducted conversations with members here pretending to be a customer of the establishment.
since you are talking about 'deception' is this not a continued form of deception ?

I ask you again ... are you a customer or the management ?

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alphonzehk   28-9-2020 14:17  Karma  +1   Valid question. This user has written a positive report on Wish Spa before... and nothing else
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Reply #1 cityguy's post

Well said brother. Wish spa , under the new management , had been terrible. Sending out fake girls photo and changing names of the girls, all no no.  I stopped going for quite sometime after similar experiences.

At least Kama and mia are more honest
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by ddr355355 at 28-9-2020 01:53
Why do you ask........................

"And I chose Bobo (Jojo) to serve you ...... "
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Reply #14 twiceAweek's post

I don’t mind if you guys give me Acceptance -8 and I have never been to wish spa. Not even the management. I used to only invest in small businesses in the mainland for florists. Why should I choose this comment to speak. Just emphasize the use of some "words" Definition". Whether you make a mistake or write an essay using inappropriate words will also harm others. Thank you

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porkchops   29-9-2020 00:43  Karma  -8   Never been to Wish spa? How come you posted a report about them in March? Lying does not go down well here...
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Reply #17 ddr355355's post

You say: "I have never been to wish spa"

But in your one other post  - also about Wish Spa you say: "Will definitely go back and try other regulars." so either it was not quite as good as you said, or you found somewhere else, or you don't really go to these establishments.....either way you are lying.

More BS around here I suspect

Look. I did not write my post to try and damage Wish Spa. I had a great relationship with some of the people there and I wish them well and even miss them. But I am just sick of being treated like a fuck wit by them and as a long time member of this forum I felt it my duty to let other bros know.

To keep it short: Wish Spa has decent girls, decent service and a decent set up. I understand that during the pandemic things go a little wrong. Just be honest and people will understand. We want Wish Spa to be successful and rival Kama/Mia and other similar places - only with competition do standards stay high and prices stay reasonable. So just provide a decent service and stop with the BS! Make us want to keep coming back.

And if you are not management then kindly pass that message on to them.

Cityguy out.

Peace.

[ Last edited by  cityguy at 28-9-2020 21:43 ]

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chaudement   28-9-2020 22:10  Acceptance  +2   Well stated.
zebra   28-9-2020 21:02  Karma  +5   Good sport




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Reply #17 ddr355355's post

Your use of English is getting from bad to worse …
I don't understand what you're trying to tell us
But what ever it is, its making me believe even
more that you are part of wish spa's publicity machine
trying to defend the indefensible

I would suggest bros in this forum make this wish spa something like a persona non grata … recommend those looking for spas specifically not to go there
Think this can be done ?

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chaudement   28-9-2020 22:11  Karma  +2   Agree wholeheartedly. No one need their B.S.
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Wish spa spokesperson banned

ddr355355 has just been banned. In addition to his suspicious behavior on this and other threads, he has been using a couple of other handles, which (surprise, surprise...) posted high praise (and in one case a blatant ad) for Wish spa. Needless to say, the other handles have also been banned.

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