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#1 Post at 7-10-2020 16:19  Profile Blog P.M.  Font size: S M L Thai Covid-19 patient in HK linked to Tsim Sha Tsui bar Thai Covid-19 patient in HK linked to Tsim Sha Tsui bar She suspected of being part of group working illegally as hostesses WRITER: SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST PUBLISHED: 7 OCT 2020 AT 13:34 https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1998191/thai-covid-19-patient-in-hk-linked-to-tsim-sha-tsui-bar HONG KONG: A Thai Covid-19 patient linked to a potential cluster of cases at a Tsim Sha Tsui watering hole is now believed by authorities to be among a group of 10 women from the country who were arranged by an agent to work illegally as bar hostesses, the South China Morning Post has learned. The 10 women, said to have entered the city on tourist visas earlier this year, were among around 30 people inside the China Secret bar on Hart Avenue on Sept 23, the same night the bar was visited by a 22-year-old local student who also later tested positive for the disease. In addition to the 10 Thai women and the Hong Kong student, those inside China Secret that night included six staff members, more than 10 patrons, and four other Thai women with Hong Kong identity cards who worked as "fighters" - or women paid to play drinking games and keep guests company. "Initial investigation showed the 10 suspected hostesses were brought to the bar via a local agent. We were told that they were paid [by the clients] between HK$400 and HK$800 to drink with customers there," one law enforcement source said. "We don't rule out the possibility that they also provided sexual services to their customers in a private deal with an extra charge." He said there were at least two other bars in Yau Tsim Mong district where Thai hostesses worked. Another source with knowledge of the investigation said the infected Thai woman, 26, first entered the city on March 16 - nine days before the Hong Kong government imposed a ban on foreign arrivals. The woman had permission to stay until Sept 30 - one day before she was confirmed infected - and had been hospitalised since, the source said. Speaking to police, the woman denied working as a bar girl, and maintained she went to China Secret just to hang out. The law enforcement source noted three other Thai women were later located and also tested positive this week after authorities checked the contacts of the agent and the 26-year-old infected woman. One, aged 27, held a Hong Kong identity card, and said she was a housewife. The two others, aged 35 and 38, entered the city on tourist visas. But the source said it was not known whether the three had also patronised China Secret. The Centre for Health Protection, meanwhile, said the housewife had previously provided false information to authorities, telling them that her friend, the 35-year-old infected Thai woman, had already returned to her home country, when in fact she was still in the city. Joseph Tsang Kay-yan, an infectious disease expert, said the presence of illegal workers in the city in general could make it more complicated to trace contacts, as they might tend to hide facts from health authorities. "If you want to solve the problem of people not telling the truth, we must first not allow these people to [be here] through law enforcement," he said. Tsang added that the other people who were in the bar, including customers, hostesses and staff, had been exposed to risks as they might have been socialising with close contacts, possibly without wearing a mask. As to whether the infections in the bar in question would spark another outbreak, he said that remained to be seen. But David Hui Shu-cheong of Chinese University, also a government health adviser, believed the risk of a local outbreak stemming from the latest bar infections was smaller than the last time such a cluster emerged during the city's second wave. At that time, more than 100 patients were ultimately swept up in the "bar and band cluster" that shocked the city in March and April. The emergence of the cluster prompted authorities to close bars and ban live performances in drinking establishments. "Although this round might have involved something like illegal bars or hostesses, at least we didn't have live performances that usually engaged a large group of people. So relatively, the risk of triggering a big outbreak is low," he said. "Now, these are just more like isolated events." Travellers from Thailand can visit Hong Kong without a visa for a period not exceeding 30 days, though they can apply to the Immigration Department to extend their stay. Thailand, meanwhile, banned all international flights into the country from April 3 until June 30. Cathay Pacific finally restarted flights to Bangkok on July 1, though suppressed travel demand and stringent requirements for travel have made flying difficult. On Monday, the Centre for Health Protection said the Thai consulate had told them it would distribute sample bottles to the estimated 100 Thai nationals who visit there each day. A consulate worker said the scheme was voluntary and that they would only give the bottles to Thais upon request, but during a visit on Tuesday morning, most of those visiting the consulate did not specifically ask for the bottles. The staff member declined to reveal how many bottles had already been given out. Meanwhile, some Thais in the city, like Hong Kong-born dual national Hoi Ting, 23, expressed concerns about infections creeping into the community, noting that many Thais tended to visit the same places. "Thais always go shopping in Kowloon City," the Shek Kip Mei housewife said, pointing to the neighbouring district famed for its Thai restaurants and shops. 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#2 Post at 7-10-2020 21:37  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Curious if any bros have been to that bar?  Is it just a hostess bar? Can you take the girls out with a bar fine? *obviously I'm not going there with an outbreak.. just curious for the future

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#3 Post at 7-10-2020 22:26  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Reply #1 JackTheBat's post I read on SCMP that the govt is considering closing all bars now because of this. I would be surprised if it didn't lead to a crackdown in certain other activities, which actually seems like a more logical approach than clamping down on ALL bars. Stay safe out there guys.

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#4 Post at 7-10-2020 23:48  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Reply #2 trust_00's post It's not like the gogo bar in Thailand, just normal bar. There's no bar fine. The bars don't pay any salary to the girls, but just provide dormitory for them to stay. The girls rely on the tips from the customers whom they drink and play games. Basically the bars earn from selling beverages at higher prices.  Is there anything happened after the close of the bars? Possible, it's just a personal deal between the girls and customers.

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#5 Post at 8-10-2020 00:07  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L Reply #3 ramont's post The latest development from today news is there is now 9 confirmed and tested preliminary positive cases for the China Secret bar-Holly Mansion clusters. The authority believes the Thai women from this group also work in two other bars.

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